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2023-11-04 02:22:34 UTC - MISINFORMED_OR_POTENTIALLY_MISLEADING

People have been making this claim for over a century but nobody has ever managed to find any evidence that Beethoven, or one of his parents were black. Recent DNA evidence has debunked the claim completely. https://twitter.com/fakehistoryhunt/status/1273616993724313602 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/was-beethoven-black-and-why-might-be-wrong-question-ask-180975159/ https://theconversation.com/was-beethoven-black-a-twitter-meme-reveals-more-about-race-and-music-than-the-composers-origins-143440 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/sep/07/beethoven-was-black-why-the-radical-idea-still-has-power-today https://blackwallst.media/beethoven-was-black-why-the-radical-idea-still-has-power-today/ https://beethovenscholar.com/index.php/2023/03/22/was-beethoven-black/ https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00181-1 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/health/beethoven-death-dna-hair.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Science

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  • summary
    • People have been making this claim for over a century but nobody has ever managed to find any evidence that Beethoven, or one of his parents were black. Recent DNA evidence has debunked the claim completely. https://twitter.com/fakehistoryhunt/status/1273616993724313602 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/was-beethoven-black-and-why-might-be-wrong-question-ask-180975159/ https://theconversation.com/was-beethoven-black-a-twitter-meme-reveals-more-about-race-and-music-than-the-composers-origins-143440 https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/sep/07/beethoven-was-black-why-the-radical-idea-still-has-power-today https://blackwallst.media/beethoven-was-black-why-the-radical-idea-still-has-power-today/ https://beethovenscholar.com/index.php/2023/03/22/was-beethoven-black/ https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00181-1 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/health/beethoven-death-dna-hair.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Science

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